10:00:04	 From bruna santos : I just sent a reminder to the EC list, I think we can give it 5 more min so we can start ?
10:00:58	 From Maryam Bakoshi : NCUC ICANN69 agenda template: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r0KvFCQxFWNZ0cEzaTKEReo4q7qqxrf1edRtVX6PR1g/edit
10:01:17	 From Brenda Brewer : Thank you, Bruna.  I’m standing by for you to say when.
10:01:34	 From bruna santos : Thanks, Brenda
10:03:48	 From Olga Kyryliuk : Hi All
10:04:12	 From Milton Mueller : "yet another" meeting LOL
10:04:27	 From Mili Semlani : Hello all
10:04:52	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : you must have had your fair share of NCUC meetings Milton ;) 
10:07:36	 From Milton Mueller : sounds like Bruna has had more than her share ;-)
10:07:54	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : haha
10:08:10	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : Bruna: I'll be glad to report whatever we'll be up to in ccpdp4 by then 
10:08:13	 From Olga Kyryliuk : Support the policy updates and the three topics
10:08:23	 From Mili Semlani : yes to policy udpates
10:08:25	 From Mili Semlani : Maybe we should add some details on the “strategy review” work…to give members some background/update on the “merger talks”
10:11:52	 From Milton Mueller : I would like to add the constituency merger/bylaw modification to the agenda
10:12:19	 From Milton Mueller : Ah, so "strategy review" is same thing?
10:12:31	 From Benjamin Akinmoyeje : which strategy?
10:12:38	 From Mili Semlani : the merger talks Benji
10:13:23	 From Benjamin Akinmoyeje : Okay @Mili
10:19:06	 From stephanieeperrin : Bad echo
10:19:17	 From Milton Mueller : we can't hear you Mili there is background noise
10:19:23	 From bruna santos : Mili, we can’t hear you
10:19:28	 From Mili Semlani : Ohh sorry
10:19:41	 From Mili Semlani : My question is about the joint outreach sesssion
10:19:48	 From Mili Semlani : do we have it this time?
10:20:34	 From Milton Mueller : FYI I have another meeting at 11:30 so will leave soon
10:20:53	 From Mili Semlani : Cuz if we do, then we can keep the NCUC for newcomers much shorter
10:21:20	 From stephanieeperrin : I think the human rights session was kind of a consolation prize, they got their proposals for abuse sessions accepted, we did not get our proposal for a human right HIT accepted.
10:21:37	 From Maryam Bakoshi : None at this time for the Fellows
10:22:03	 From Mili Semlani : Makes sense
10:22:07	 From stephanieeperrin : Milton has anyone reached out to you to appear on the Abuse panel?  I gave zuck your name as a potential person….
10:22:26	 From Milton Mueller : Ha ha. No.
10:22:39	 From stephanieeperrin : Unsurprising.
10:22:52	 From stephanieeperrin : Suggestions welcome
10:23:09	 From Milton Mueller : Tatiana would be good
10:23:37	 From stephanieeperrin : Can you please talk her into it?  I will propose her name if she agrees
10:25:01	 From stephanieeperrin : We need someone on the IRT to replace Amr in my opinion.  I am trying to talk Stefan into it
10:27:36	 From stephanieeperrin : I don’t know whether Rafik ever completed his promised job description for policy committee chair, but I have not finished my promised job description for the NCSG Chair.  I will at least get you my draft Bruna, might help move that along.
10:28:20	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : ;) it will come in due time steph ...
10:28:28	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : Ben: noted!
10:28:29	 From Milton Mueller : bye all
10:28:34	 From bruna santos : bye milton!
10:28:37	 From Mili Semlani : yes
10:28:40	 From Mili Semlani : bye Milton
10:28:51	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : bye Milton thx for joining
10:29:49	 From Mili Semlani : I agree…with Ben and Franco.
10:30:45	 From Mili Semlani : We can maybe start with creating a living doc that records ongoing work and each year ECs can add to it. This way the history will be there and be a good reference point for new ECs
10:32:08	 From stephanieeperrin : We have on the website existing documents listing project work, that is out of date.  We could perhaps find volunteers to keep that work out of date?
10:32:22	 From stephanieeperrin : Up to date I mean…
10:33:53	 From stephanieeperrin : One of our biggest problems in my view is that the leaders are stuck with so much work that when their terms are up they just run….
10:34:11	 From stephanieeperrin : Leaving no-one to brief or help their successors
10:39:28	 From bruna santos : I know =/
10:39:29	 From bruna santos : hahah
10:41:19	 From Mili Semlani : Its a good idea, Ben. We could do a quarterly membership meeting (virtual).
10:41:31	 From Olga Kyryliuk : if members attended at least those zooms that are already happening. take ncsg policy meeting for example, not high attendace
10:41:47	 From Mili Semlani : fair point Olga
10:42:53	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : yes that, and I understand there may be a need for other types of meetings, but also having a meeting just for the sake of one, is not very productive. So it would be nice to have a quarterly meeting, to the extent we have something interesting for the membership 
10:43:41	 From stephanieeperrin : We can barely come up with agendas for the public meetings….so I don’t think more meetings will solve a problem
10:46:33	 From bruna santos : Transition document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LZLzNcg9c4tqQ5SmsZ_6VBvCUrq4lVpa-Gk7z0FmqWw/edit?usp=sharing
10:50:53	 From stephanieeperrin : Would a basic reading list help?
10:51:16	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : doesn't it already exist somewhere? but yes there should be one
10:51:19	 From Mili Semlani : We can add this reading list to the website
10:51:30	 From Mili Semlani : It will also be a good resource to add to newcomers kit
10:52:00	 From stephanieeperrin : Once I leave the Chair, I could do a blog with a basic intro list of required reading for each PDP.  Sometimes the wiki space has so much stuff on it, people take one look and run away.
10:53:01	 From Mili Semlani : At the Montreal meeting, we spoke about dividing the EC in teams (membership issues, outreach, event etc). Should we strengthen that?
10:53:20	 From stephanieeperrin : A job that a non expert could do is do a daily blog post on what is going on in the GNSO that day…for instance today we had Council.  Tuesday we had our policy committee.
10:53:27	 From bruna santos : We attempted at doing that, but this plan was never really taken forward. But I like this idea, Mili.
10:53:40	 From bruna santos : Mike and Ben were fundamental for the Policy writing course
10:56:03	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : yes sure 
10:56:38	 From Mili Semlani : sure the transition meeting + kickoff for new term. This can be agenda setting. Set the goals and persons in charge
10:57:13	 From Mili Semlani : We record it in a doc…so at all times everyone knows who is doing what
10:58:00	 From stephanieeperrin : Transition would be a great idea.  I am sticking around to help, and I would like to reinforce the message that for the past two years, we have had a group of leaders at NCSG who all got along.  We cooperated and worked together well even if we did not always agree.  Given our history of much bickering among constituencies, we need to cling fast to that sprit of cooperation
10:59:08	 From stephanieeperrin : When there are fights going on, it takes all the time of the leaders to deal with those fights.
10:59:24	 From Mili Semlani : Very true…it can be draining
10:59:48	 From stephanieeperrin : Yes and no-one is every happy so it really is a waste of our precious time
11:00:47	 From Mili Semlani : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LZLzNcg9c4tqQ5SmsZ_6VBvCUrq4lVpa-Gk7z0FmqWw/edit?usp=sharing
11:00:54	 From Mili Semlani : this is shaping to be rich!
11:00:59	 From Maryam Bakoshi : Sure Bruna, we can track that aside from the reminders I send.
11:02:15	 From Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix : I have to run to another call! sorry :X let me know about action points and ill listen to the recording for the rest :) bye all and thx
11:02:27	 From Mili Semlani : Bye Raph
11:02:51	 From Maryam Bakoshi : Link to the NCUC ABR request: https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/NCUC+-+FY21+Additional+Budget+Requests
11:03:18	 From Maryam Bakoshi : Link to the ABR approval: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=134513539
11:06:07	 From stephanieeperrin : What are we doing about the ABRs we need to start work?  I am including the NCSG one because of course you are inheriting it....
11:07:15	 From stephanieeperrin : Congrats for succeeding in at tough year!
11:07:15	 From Mili Semlani : Thanks all
11:07:17	 From bruna santos : Have a good day!